“I'm sure the Freino is good at what it does, but it's really a single-use piece of kit, only to be used for belaying and really only with a GriGri. If that's what you want, fine, but it seems a bit of a waste of money. Petzl says you can use it with an tube device, but it forces the rope over a place where the rope ain't designed to go so I'd imagine will wear through your ATC quicker than normal, and put undue stress on the rope...”