“This is my first pair of boxing shorts and they're great. I go back and forth between size small and medium for shorts; I went with small for these but they feel more like a medium. When I wear them right under my belly button they sit in the middle of my kneecap. In my stance, they sit above my kneecap. I prefer shorts that are above my kneecaps. For reference I'm 5'8 and 185lbs. The thick waistband keeps the shorts fixed in place during training and the detail is great. I feel like a professional fighter in these. I also bought the matching tank. Will order the other colors when in stock or hold off for the black friday sale.”