Okay well they were very nice but I ordered flowers a few years back, I think four, from David Austin when there were handling their own online bouquet sales and I have to say sadly they were much better, more profuse. At the time I would have said 'that is the best bouquet I have ever bought online' and sadly I would not say this about the present I bought this time. On both occasions I was staying with the person I bought the flowers from and I did get to see them in the flesh and not just hear what they were like. Don't like to pass on this news but have to be honest. Thank you